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DNA testing

Recently I saw an advertisment for DNA testing for 99.00.  I was completely amazed, could this really be done for 99.00?  I thought is this a hoax or does it just tell you blah, blah, blah, informtaion that means nothing?  Could it as it boasted reveal areas of which you were suceptible. Genetic areas in which you could begin to do preventive measures in order to possibly avoid certain dieases and maybe even prolong your life. 

I sent of an email to my daughter who is a scientist.  Yes, she answered it can be done but with it comes ethical questions that may lead to “health Insurance” interferrance. This “new” easily obtained DNA testing could mean interesting things she said for the future of privacy and governement.  Then I find this article.

Spread of DNA databases sparks ethical concerns, By JILL LAWLESS

You can ditch your computer and leave your cellphone at home, but you can’t escape your DNA. It belongs uniquely to you – and, increasingly, to the authorities. Countries around the world are collecting genetic material from millions of citizens in the name of fighting crime and terrorism – and, according to critics, heading into uncharted ethical terrain.

Leaders include the United States – where the Supreme Court recently backed the collection of DNA swabs from suspects on arrest – and Britain, where police held samples of almost 7 million people, more than 10 percent of the population, until a court-ordered about-face saw the incineration of a chunk of the database.

The expanding trove of DNA in official hands has alarmed privacy campaigners, and some scientists. Recent leaks about U.S. surveillance programs by former NSA systems analyst Edward Snowden have made people realize their online information and electronic communications may not be as secure as they thought. 

Could the same be true of the information we hold within our genes? DNA samples that can help solve robberies and murders could also, in theory, be used to track down our relatives, scan us for susceptibility to disease, or monitor our movements.

Earlier this year Yaniv Erlich, who runs a lab at MIT’s Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research, published a paper in the journal Science describing how he was able to identify individuals, and their families, from anonymous DNA data in a research project. 

All it took was a computer algorithm, a genetic genealogy website and searches of publicly available Internet records.

“It was a very weird feeling – a ‘wow’ feeling,” Erlich told The Associated Press. “I had to take a walk outside just to think about this process.”

Erlich says DNA databases have enormous positive power, both for fighting crime and in scientific research. But, he said, “our work shows there are privacy limitations.”

Ethical qualms have done little to stop the growth of genetic databases around the world.

The international police agency Interpol listed 54 nations with national police DNA databases in 2009, including Australia, Canada, France, Germany and China. 

Brazil and India have since announced plans to join the club, and the United Arab Emirates intends to build the world’s first database of an entire national population.

The biggest database is in the United States – the FBI’s Combined DNA Index System, or CODIS, which holds information on more than 11 million people suspected of or convicted of crimes.

It is set to grow following a May Supreme Court ruling that upheld the right of police forces to take DNA swabs without a warrant from people who are arrested, not just those who are convicted. (Policies on DNA collection vary by state; more than half of the states and the federal government currently take DNA swabs after arrests.)

The court’s justices were divided about implications for individuals’ rights. 

Justice Anthony Kennedy, for the five-judge majority, called the taking of DNA a legitimate and reasonable police booking procedure akin to fingerprinting.

But dissenting Justice Antonin Scalia argued that it marked a major change in police powers. “Because of today’s decision, your DNA can be taken and entered into a national database if you are ever arrested, rightly or wrongly, and for whatever reason,” he said.

A similar note of caution has been struck by Alec Jeffreys, the British geneticist whose 1984 discovery of DNA fingerprinting revolutionized criminal investigations. 

He has warned that “mission creep” could see authorities use DNA to accumulate information on people’s racial origins, medical history and psychological profile.

Erlich agreed that scenario was possible, if not likely.

“If it’s not regulated and the police can do whatever they want … they can use your DNA to infer things about your health, your ancestry, whether your kids are your kids,” he said.

Police forces have already tracked down criminals through the DNA of their innocent relatives, a practice that is both a goldmine for investigators and, according to skeptics, an ethical minefield. 

Charles Tumosa, a clinical assistant professor in forensic studies at the University of Baltimore who is wary of the potential for genetic surveillance, says relatives of suspects could be identified through DNA and leaned on for information about their family members.

And yet familial DNA searches have helped solve terrible crimes. In Britain, a sex attacker known as the “shoe rapist” was caught after 20 years through DNA from his sister, who was in the database due to a drunken-driving arrest. 

In Kansas in 2005, police identified Dennis Rader as a serial killer known as “BTK” through his daughter’s DNA obtained, without her knowledge, from a pap smear in her medical records.

“There’s got to be a debate,” said Tumosa. “Nobody has talked this out.

“At what point do you say, enough is enough? Do we want to have a society where 5 percent of the crime is unsolved, or do we want to have a society where 100 percent of the crime is solved” but privacy is compromised. “What’s the trade-off?”

Both supporters and critics of DNA databases point to Britain, where until recently, police could take the DNA of anyone 10 or older arrested for even the most minor offense – and keep it forever, even if the suspect was later acquitted or released without charge.

Police say the database has helped solve thousands of crimes, including murders and rapes. 

On the other side of the coin are hundreds of thousands of innocent people, including children, who feel shamed and tainted by inclusion on a database of criminal suspects – a status some legal experts say undermines the presumption of innocence.

“A lot of British people were very shocked to find themselves or their children ending up on the database for minor alleged offenses such as throwing a snowball at a car,” said Helen Wallace, director of the privacy group GeneWatch, which campaigns for restrictions on collection of DNA and other personal information.

After a long legal battle – waged in part by a youth who was arrested at 11 on suspicion of attempted robbery and had his DNA retained despite being acquitted – the European Court of Human Rights ruled in 2008 that Britain’s “blanket and indiscriminate” storage of DNA violated the right to a private life.

The U.K. was forced to trim its huge database. Under a law passed last year known as the Protection of Freedoms Act, the government is destroying the DNA profiles – strings of numbers derived from DNA samples that are used to identify individuals – of a million people who were arrested for minor offenses but not convicted. 

People acquitted of serious crimes have their DNA profiles kept for up to five years.

Britain also has incinerated more than 6 million physical DNA samples – mostly swabs of saliva – taken from suspects. Samples, which could previously be kept indefinitely, must now be destroyed after six months.

Destroying the samples is seen as key to limiting DNA databases to crime-fighting rather than snooping, because it means stored DNA cannot be used to trace relatives or susceptibility to disease.

The U.K. government says the curbs have restored a sense of proportion to Britain’s database, but some aspects of the country’s genetic monitoring remain murky.

The U.K. DNA ethics watchdog has expressed concerns about a secret counterterrorism database, which, according to the Metropolitan Police Authority, contains “DNA obtained through searches, crime scenes and arrests in relation to counterterrorism” – including samples from people stopped and questioned at ports and borders, even if they are not arrested.

The Home Office, which oversees police and the DNA database, said there was a “robust regulatory framework” for the counterterrorism database. But it would not disclose how large it is, who has access to it or whether the information is shared with other countries.

Some authorities on DNA say fears of genetic intrusion are misplaced.

Chris Asplen, a former assistant U.S. attorney who now heads the Global Alliance for Rapid DNA Testing, argues that DNA is not dramatically different from other information the authorities already hold about millions of people, such as fingerprints, social security numbers or automobile registrations.

But he does see avenues for abuse.

“There is an argument to be made that because that biological sample exists, the government could go back and do other things with it that are not authorized by the law,” he said. 

“It’s a constant tension between government and people, particularly when technology is applied.”   Read more at http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2013/July24/247.html#k8gBXHXLo6ALhRQx.9

So as I have said many times technology is fascinating and it is surely convenient but what is the long term  of such “new” things?



this post is related to Dean‘s new program on Thursday evenings.  In it we discussed his material concerning the ‘mark” as related in Revelation. The name itself “Choose Your Mark” explains the concept of the program

Choose – there has always been a choice.  In the beginning Genesis, tells us God put a tree in the center of the garden and told us not to eat of it.  Then we see God gave us a choice to obey or do our own thing.  One choice lead to life and the other lead to death….

Your – It’s personal not in the same way as we hear politicians says that’s a personal choice suggesting it is somewhat not up for discussion, questionable or a valid question.  But personal in the way it is your choice. I can’t  choose for you and you can’t choose for me.  God gives everyone the right to choose.  He honors it to the extent that he allows you to even make the wrong choice. It is yours PERSONAL

Mark – In this context we need to acknowledge two kingdoms.. one of light and one of darkness. We are born into the kingdom of darkness (because of the choice made back in the beginning).  We have to choose which kingdom.  By doing nothing we choose, that can’t be our defense… We choose by which Mark we live under.

As I did some study earlier in the day, in preparation for the program I studied some information in regards to what I would consider the Biblical concept of being marked.

Dictionary.com defines Mark or Marked as:


1.a visible impression or trace on something, as a line, cut,dent, stain, or bruise: a small mark on his arm.

2.a badge, brand, or other visible sign assumed or imposed: amark of his noble rank.

3.a symbol used in writing or printing: a punctuation mark.

4.a sign, usually an X or cross, made instead of a Signature bysomeone who does not know how or is unable to write his orher own name.

5.an affixed or impressed device, symbol, inscription, etc.,serving to give information, identify, indicate origin orownership, attest to character or comparative merit, orthe like, as a trademark.

6.a sign, token, or indication: to bow as a mark of respect.

7.a symbol used in rating conduct, proficiency, attainment,etc., as of pupils in a school: good marks; bad marks.

8.something serving as an indication of position, as a landmark.

9.a recognized or required standard of quality, accomplishment,etc.; norm: His dissertation was below the mark.

10.distinction or importance; repute; note: a man of mark.

11.a distinctive trait or characteristic: the usual marks of agentleman.

12.usually initial capital letter U.S. Military . a designation foran item of military equipment in production, used incombination with a numeral to indicate the order of adoption,and often abbreviated: a Mark-4 tank; an M-1 rifle.

13.an object aimed at; targetto aim at the mark.

14.an object or end desired or striven for; goal.

15.Slang .

a.an object of derision, scorn, manipulation, or the like: Hewas an easy mark for criticism.

b.the intended victim of a swindler, hustler, or the like:The cardsharps picked their marks from among thetourists on the cruise ship.

16.Track . the starting line.

–verb (used with object)

23.to be a distinguishing feature of: a day marked by rain.

24.to put a mark or marks on: to mark each box with an X.

25.to give a grade for; put a grade on: to mark the final exams.

26.scent-mark ( def. 2 ) .

27.to furnish with figures, signs, tags, etc., to indicate price,quality, brand name, or the like: We marked all the bookswith prices.

28.to trace or form by or as if by marks (often followed by out ):to mark out a plan of attack.

29.to indicate or designate by or as if by marks: to markpassages to be memorized.

30.to single out; destine (often followed by out ): to be markedout for promotion.

31.to record, as a score.

32.to make manifest: to mark approval with a nod.

33.to give heed or attention to: Mark my words!

34.to notice or observe: to mark a change in the weather.

Not trying to go over board by defining the word, however understanding the word helps us to apply those concepts to our own life.

Biblically I think we can say that the word we render as marked was used in many ways below are a few:

Boundaries are marked  -Joshua 18:20

People/animals/ things – can be marked for the sword –Job 15:22

God marked dimensions – Job 38:5

marked out the horizon – Proverbs 8:27

marked out the foundations of the earth – Proverbs 8:29

marked off the heavens  -Isaiah 40:12

flocked marked for slaughter -Zechariah 11:4,7

Scripture also tells us that the LORD has marked out a path for us as well -Hebrews 12:1 Race marked.

Contemplating the dictionary definition and some examples from the Bible, what marks you?

When I met Dean he was already ministering on this topic, and I began to contemplate the message that he shared and his title I thought of the scripture Ephesians 1:13

13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, NIV

AMP Eph 1:13 In Him you also who have heard the Word of Truth, the glad tidings (Gospel) of your salvation, and have believed in and adhered to and relied on Him, were stamped with the seal of the long-promised Holy Spirit.

(from THE MESSAGE: The Bible in Contemporary Language © 2002 by Eugene H. Peterson. All rights reserved.)

13 It’s in Christ that you, once you heard the truth and believed it (this Message of your salvation), found yourselves home free — signed, sealed, and delivered by the Holy Spirit. 14 This signet from God is the first installment on what’s coming, a reminder that we’ll get everything God has planned for us, a praising and glorious life.

Obtaining that mark..

One of the negatives from my view in which Dean and I disagree, is that this message scares people. I don’t agree with scare tactics.  (not saying that Dean is employing them), however salvation needs to be more than fire insurance.

What is salvation:

Salvation is simple. We make it difficult when we try to explain it.  God offers us life, freedom and His promises. It is up to us to decide if we want His gift or not.  If you are not sure you are saved or if you know you not saved, Scripture gives us the instruction on what we must do.

ALL have sinned.  We must recognize our need. In Romans 3:23, the Bible tells us that “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” All of us are sinners, and we must admit our need for a Savior.

BELIEVE in Jesus. When Jesus came to earth it was a miracle.  He gave up His position in heaven to come and pay for our sins.  He gave His life for us.  He was the payment for our sins. In John 3:16, the Bible says, “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.” We must receive His gift to us. Thank Him for loving you and ask Him to live in and through your life. Then we have the promise found in John 1:12, “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become the children of God.”

CONFESS your sin and then confess Him as your Lord. Our sins create a wall that separates us from God.  By confessing your sins and turning from them, you will find forgiveness. Romans 10:9 assures us: “If you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.” And it says in 1 John 1:9, “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.” You have been born again and are now part of God’s family. Tell someone else what Jesus has done in your life! Get yourself connected to a Bible teaching and believing group.

  1. We must believe that He is our Savior and receive Him as such in our life.
  2. We must recognize that we are a sinner and that we need His forgiveness.
  3. We must confess our sin, pray and tell Him you are a sinner and want forgiveness.

Sample Prayer for Salvation:

Dear Jesus,

Thank you that You love me and have died for me. Thank you that You shed Your blood to pay the penalty for my sin. As an act of my will, I turn from my sin and from all my efforts to save myself. I turn to You and receive Your forgiveness. Send Your Spirit to live in me and make me the person You created me to be. By faith I thank you that You have heard my prayer and have saved me. Thank you, Jesus, that You are my Savior and Deliverer!  Amen!

Now if you prayed that prayer I some instructions for you…. You need to tell someone, you need to get yourself connected with people who can help you in your new life…..

First and foremost having a relationship with the Lord Jesus is our first step in being Marked.